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Are you a nice guy who has always wondered why the cocky guy -- the one who barely appears interested in the girl -- is usually the one who gets the girl?
Have you suffered from hearing the words, "You're a really nice guy, but I only like you as a friend," from a woman who you would do (or may, in fact, have already done) just about anything and everything for -- only to turn around and watch her date (or even chase) a guy who treats her like she's nothing special? And are you stumped wondering why she would date a guy who treats her like that when she could have you who would treat her like a princess and give her everything she wants? Well, you better brace yourself because I'm going to tell you a couple of secrets that you might not want to hear.
First, "nice" equates with boring and predictable. Look up "nice" in the dictionary and you find: pleasant; agreeable; satisfactory. In other words, average -- not exceptional, not exciting, and not sexy.I'll bet you've never heard a woman say she didn't want to date a guy because he was too confident, too passionate, or too exciting -- have you? But, I'll bet you have heard women say things like, "He's such a nice guy. He's so sweet and he's always there for me, but I only like him as a friend." Or, "He's such a good guy -- kind, thoughtful, generous, honest, loyal -- but there's no chemistry. He just doesn't turn me on." Sadly, I hear it all the time. The fact is, Mr. Nice Guy, you cannot bore a woman into feeling attracted to you or into wanting to date you. And as obvious as that sounds, if you are one of those guys I described that is exactly what you are trying to do. And it won't work.
Please understand that I am not suggesting that you mistreat women or disrespect them in any way.
“What I suggesting is that you value and respect yourself more.”
What I suggesting is that you value and respect yourself more.
To illustrate what I mean: The answer to the question, "Why does the guy who doesn't appear to care as much about the girl get the girl?" is simple: The nice guy cares too much, too soon. He has made the woman too important and too valuable and it shows in everything he says and does. He is too available, too eager to please, too accommodating, and he gives too much -- all without getting anything in return. By doing so, he has made himself appear desperate, insecure, needy of this woman's attention, affection, and approval -- and he has stripped himself of any value in her eyes. After all, if he's already doing and giving everything, without her doing or giving anything - why would she value him? She won't. She is not going to value him any more than he values himself. What she is going to do is look for someone else, someone who she perceives as being more worthy, more confident, and more valuable.
It works like this:
“Once you need something, or you want it too badly, you forfeit your strength and lose all power of negotiation.”
Once you need something, or you want it too badly, you forfeit your strength and lose all power of negotiation. You are in a position of weakness and you are perceived as weak. Someone (or something) else is in control of you, the situation, and it's outcome. Men in this situation appear to be anything but confident, strong, and exciting. More, they are perceived as being unworthy and as lacking value.
Translation: Things that are easily acquired, obtained, or maintained, without any effort or sacrifice, lack value... it's human nature.
The secret to why the cocky guy wins with women, over the nice guy, is that he is perceived as being a stronger, more confident guy with more value. How? He never invests everything -- his entire being, ego, and self-worth in what one woman's response or reaction to him is. He doesn't gush with compliments; he isn't always available; he doesn't give too much; and he knows he isn't going to die if a woman says "no" to him. More, his attitude is, yeah, I'd like to go out with you, but if I can't, that's OK -- I'm a busy guy, with exciting things going on, and lots of other options.
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so true. kaya maging bad boy with lots of cash and brains.
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dami kung na22nan...
last guys makes forever dba??
but badboys values more of his pride...
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dba totoo the fact na average lang kce ang nice guys
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yeap average lang tlga ang nice guys...
pero sila ang mkaka-give ng forever sa mga babaeng nabiktima ng mga badboys...
pero may pagkakataon ang mga badboys ay npabago at nging nice guy...
nice guy pa rin mkakapagbigay ng forever...
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I may b able 2 spek d languages of human beings & evn of angels, but f I hav no luv, my spech s no mor than a noisy gong or a clanging bell. I may hav d gift of inspired preachng; I may hav ol knwldge & undrstnd all screts; I may have d faith neded 2 mov mountains-but f I hav no luv, I AM NOTHING.
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Nope i didnt read it all
i dont agree hheehehe
what can i say im stubborn
that is why you must learn how to adopt
to her attitude
not all women prefer bad boys
we have a courtship
courtship is to find out as much as you can about her
this is the time to find out the things she likes and dislike
you have to learn how to be a bad boy and a good boy
sabi nga nila when the courtship starts the lieing begins
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hmmmmmmmm is that why i always end up with them bad boys? lol
i can't help it... if the guy's too nice i'll only see him as a friend but the thing is i meet bad boy, bad boy makes me happy then things will change bad boy leaves me for a hotter girl so the bad boy made me cry
who will i turn to? of course the good guy who's always there, always available who's never gonna leave me when things get shitty and yet the only thing i want from him is comfort!
what the heeeeeeeeeeeeeck. hahahahahahaha... i dunno why is it like that unfair much but that is reality.
if you show that you care so much people (i am speaking generally na) will take you for granted and i think that's the reason why the good guys are taken for granted nga.
weeeeeeeeeeell now i realized that them good guys are waaaaaaaaaaaaay better (after crying so many times, after all the pain i've been thru with them bad boys)
now i'll try to look for a good guy hopefully i won't get bored. lol kidding
i think this time maappreciate ko na talaga good guys.
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Pssst good guy po dito sa baba hahahahha
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Quote from: BitterSour Pojoey on July 05, 2009, 02:26:06 PM
last guys makes forever dba??
pretty much sums it up. Why do nice guys chase "bad girls", yet want a permanent relationship
There are lots of nice girls out there
Probably you have just been looking in the wrong places
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Quote from: tempgirl on August 25, 2010, 11:33:39 AM
hmmmmmmmm is that why i always end up with them bad boys? lol
i can't help it... if the guy's too nice i'll only see him as a friend but the thing is i meet bad boy, bad boy makes me happy then things will change bad boy leaves me for a hotter girl so the bad boy made me cry
I don't really like the term "good girl"/"bad girl". A so called "bad girl" might not be ready to settle down into a relationship, or just wants to do different things.
Anyway I just do not like "labels".
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undeniably true!
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Quote from: I am a Ninja (duh) on August 25, 2010, 11:33:39 AM
hmmmmmmmm is that why i always end up with them bad boys? lol
i can't help it... if the guy's too nice i'll only see him as a friend but the thing is i meet bad boy, bad boy makes me happy then things will change bad boy leaves me for a hotter girl so the bad boy made me cry
who will i turn to? of course the good guy who's always there, always available who's never gonna leave me when things get shitty and yet the only thing i want from him is comfort!
what the heeeeeeeeeeeeeck. hahahahahahaha... i dunno why is it like that unfair much but that is reality.
if you show that you care so much people (i am speaking generally na) will take you for granted and i think that's the reason why the good guys are taken for granted nga.
weeeeeeeeeeell now i realized that them good guys are waaaaaaaaaaaaay better (after crying so many times, after all the pain i've been thru with them bad boys)
now i'll try to look for a good guy hopefully i won't get bored. lol kidding
i think this time maappreciate ko na talaga good guys.
agree talaga aq dito...i can picture myself when i read what you wrote..para tlagang ung experience q..
hate those bad guys..sana makatagpo aq ng good guy soon..
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Quote from: fet_faye on September 15, 2011, 02:01:28 PM
agree talaga aq dito...i can picture myself when i read what you wrote..para tlagang ung experience q..
hate those bad guys..sana makatagpo aq ng good guy soon..
Ano ba ang good guy para syo?
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Quote from: morrismo on September 15, 2011, 02:28:39 PM
Ano ba ang good guy para syo?
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Quote from: Cool Choy on September 15, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
Mag a-apply ka padre?
Hahaha... Di naman.... Gusto ko lang malaman kung pano nya i-define ang good guy..... I consider myself a good guy but I am no angel....
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^Akala ko mag a-apply ka eh..
Tama si TS. Noong high school ako palagi akong busted kasi daw parang younger
brother lang ako, pero nice daw ako.
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